After talking to Brian Dawn Chalkley about contributing to a show for our project space FLAT:TWO he invited himself around my studio and bought the entire Chelsea M.A. with him. We recorded the interview and here it is in it’s entirety discussing the struggles and successes of making work. Covering all the important chapters of my career from studying at Chelsea to showing in commercial galleries, moving to New York and running project spaces. Image is The Ship project space on Cable street in 2002.